Official "Follow the Leader" Instant Reactions and Scrubs Appreciation Comments!

[brian]

 

[Katie Kat]

Okay - I gotta give you the Scrubs holla!  I didn't even watch the show consistently, and I thought it was BRILLIANT.  Sigh!

As for OUR show... I have a lot of questions, but I'll fill those in later.  Right now, I have two major ones:

1.  Did anyone else take note of the commercial just before the last segment?  It showed pictures and then said "Just because we saw these things doesn't mean it's gonna happen."  And then the screen showed "What did you see?"  (I think).  I got the distinct feeling that was linked to LOST.  The pictures shown were:  1) a casket; 2) a graduation ceremony; 3) kids getting out of school; 4) some sort of card - all I could read was "Mosaic" and "08;" 5) a weird picture of something from a newscast (?) or maybe a picture - smoke coming from a building or vehicle, maybe war? and; 6) a kangaroo.  All I got was maybe endings (casket, graduation, school getting out), an anagram of "mosaic" (?), and maybe the kangaroo was representing Australia?  Weird.

2.  Also weird - if you look at the promo for next week frame by frame (yes, I actually do this), you see one odd shot right after Richard hits the bomb (I think) with the pick axe.  It's like the interior of a room with cinder block walls and the walls are just beginning to be pushed in.  It's only one frame, so I don't know.  Maybe he wasn't hitting the bomb, he was hitting a wall?  Not sure.

More tomorrow.  I'm seriously so confuzzled by this show anymore, I'm not sure I get ANY of it!  MUST. REST. BRAIN.....

[flinchn]

So, Alpert-Centric - yet no backstory on Alpert.  He has been an advisor for a very long time and he never ages.  He worries about Locke - and either he talks with Jacob, or like Ben, perhaps, never has.  I have to think that he knows something, since he's leading the group somewhere, right?  I also noticed, with some astonishment - that Alpert seemed to be surprised by most of the events of this episode.  Not at all the seer I had built him up to be.  You'd think the guy who may have been an ancient Egyptian or a Black Rock crewman had seen some weird stuff on the island?!  Then again, what Eloise and Widmore know also seems to be largely based on what the time travelers have shared with them.

So, I'm a bit upset that I don't know more about the mythology than I did an hour (4 years) ago.

Now, I'm thinking that Jacob wants Locke to kill him, free him - whatever.  It is very possible that the Island and Jacob are at odds.  We've always thought of Jacob as the island spirit, but perhaps that's what they wanted us to think.  In any case, I don't trust Christian/Claire/Smokey etc. as being emissaries of Jacob anymore.

I finally will come out and say it: "I don't see any hope for Ben being good anymore."  Long had I held out hope that they'd be able to swerve Emerson's performance at the end, but he's turned into a sniveling, back-biting shadow.  And its a good bet he led the Others unilaterally, living out a childhood dream of actually being paid attention to.

Juliet is all kinds of jealous.  Bad news for her and I've stated several times I don't trust her anyway and I never have.  (They seem to be back with Kate interferring in the Eloise/Jack plan to blow up the H-bomb in the preview so I guess the sub didn't make it, somehow)

As for the Dharma people, a few things: I don't like Radzinsky at all.  It stinks that he has to live long enough to train Kelvin so we probably won't see his demise.
I'm disappointed in Horace for being such a huge wimp and I wish they would have had Oldham show back up for the interrogation.

Dr. Chang quizzing Hurley on the 70's had to be one of the funniest scenes Lost has produced - what a riot.

I'm pretty sure we will finally see a talking scene with a human Jacob next week.  But, something will occur to stop his demise/freedom - I'm sure.  There's still 16 episodes next season.

[the Other Brian]

Definitely one of the best nights of TV EVER.

Brian, you are right-on about the Scrubs finale.  I started tearing up near the end.  And I loved that we finally got the janitor's real name...or not   Dunno if I'd say it was the best series finale ever--both St. Elsewhere and Newhart may have it beat--but certainly one of the best.  (And the "series finale" from last year was not meant to be even the season finale; NBC screwed up the order for some reason.)

KatieKat, I dunno what the hell that commercial was.  If I had to guess, I'd say it was a promo for a summer show called "Mosaic", but IMDB has no listing for such a show.

As for the episode, I am as confused as most, especially about Alpert.  I wonder how much we'll ever really know about him.

That last line was one of the all-time great "WTF???" Lost moments.  Anyone think Locke may have said it just to play with Ben's head?

17 more episodes...sigh.

T.O.B.

[the Other Brian]

KatieKat and others interested in that commercial:

Look what I found...


http://www.themosaiccollective.com/

[UnfoX]

I'm confused 

In the scene which Locke gives intructions to Richard to get the bullet out of himself, where did this loop begin in the timeline?

These loops drive me crazy 

[Stef]

Yeah, especially after that great pre-Kate scene on the sub where Sawyer and Juliet said they loved each other, I really feel like one of them's going to die. And I'm guessing it's Juliet, and that will make me very sad and probably make Sawyer very mad.

[Sodfather]

Dr. Chang quizzing Hurley on the 70's had to be one of the funniest scenes Lost has produced - what a riot.

When Chang asked Hurley if he served in the Korean War and Hurley respond it didn't exist, there was a perfect reaction shot from Jin. Great comedic timing.

[Keebah]

So last night we learned that John Locke was the reason Richard Alpert showed up in an earlier Season 5 episode, removed the bullet from John’s leg, instructed John to get everyone who left back on the island, and then told John he would have to die.  More importantly, we learned that the whole Alpert-removes-the-bullet-and-drops-a-load-of-bad-news-on-Locke moment occurred in 2008.  This confirmed that when the island was skipping around through time earlier this season, at least one of the skips took place in the future relative to John, Sawyer, Juliet, Miles, Charlotte and Faraday.  What I’m curious to know is when that encounter at the beach craft first happened earlier this season were there any indications at that time that may have clued Locke in on where he was in time?  Clearly the beach craft was in a more dilapidated state, but I don’t think Locke could in any way have predicted where he was in time just based on some overgrowth and rust.  I guess I’m just not sold on the whole “The island told me” answer that he gave Ben last night.

Also, having just recently rewatched episode 13 from Season 1 entitled Hearts and Minds, there was a cool throwback moment to that episode in Follow the Leader.  In Hearts and Minds, Sayid and Jack are seen discussing a compass that Locke gave to Sayid.  Sayid asks Jack to show him which direction Jack thinks is true north.  Jack correctly determines a northern heading, but Sayid then shows him Locke’s compass, which does not point to true north.  Sayid goes on to explain that only an electromagnetic disturbance can affect a compass in that way, but the disturbance will typically be just a few degrees off.  Locke’s compass is so far off that Sayid chalks it up to it being a broken compass.  Obviously, the island’s electromagnetic properties were affecting the compass since the Swan Hatch was still in existence at that time.

Where am I going with this?  Go back to Follow the Leader when John, Sun and Richard are on the beach before the errand.  John asks Richard if he still has the compass he gave him.  Richard pulls it out of his pocket and states “It’s a little rusty, but she still can find north.”  While it’s not a big revelation that the electromagnetic disturbance is gone, it’s nice to see it addressed on the show with some finality.

[Jabbadoo]

Ohhhh... so many feelings... I can't wait for the finale, but then that means 15 more years until the next season.. (at least that's what it feels like). So much going on here..  And I still feel that Juliet has all sorts of knowledge about stuff that we don't know... I'm also confused with the whole sub thing... if Dharma isn't time/space travelling yet, then really how is this sub getting from the island to to Ann Arbor??? How long is THAT taking? And what about the special potion? And why a sub? Hmmm perhaps it's going through the center of the earth..heh. I'm also confused about the whole Present Locke running into the Past Locke, in the present?

On another side note... seeing Star Trek on saturday... woot! can't wait! I need to go find some pointy ears!

[Katie Kat]

You know- I almost feel so confused by all of this that watching the show has become less fun... anyone agree?  I think I get more out of reading Brian's analyses than from the actual show! 

Anyway, these are the things I thought stood out:

1.  It was interesting that Locke came up to the Others' camp with a boar he killed, just like in the beginning of the show.

2.  Alpert was CLEARLY surprised to see Locke.  Was that because he thought he should be dead, or was he just convinced he wasn't coming back?  Also, Alpert looked at Locke like he was a completely different person (which we've all talked about).  I know he (Alpert) commented on it, but I was surprised how surprised Alpert was!  I wonder if he felt the change in Locke was good or bad... according to what he said to Ben later, I'd guess bad.

3.  Is Locke the "liar" now?  He lied to Sun about getting the other people back to their time -- is he just so hell bent on his mission to kill Jacob that he doesn't care, or does he know something (like killing Jacob will get everyone back together)?

4.  Jabba - I agree... the whole "time loop" thing drives me insane!  I get so confused.  Why did Locke say the Island told him when to be at that scene?  If "whatever happened, happened," then wouldn't it have always been that way?  Is John now a "variable" too?  Also, if they had succeeded in blowing up the H-bomb back in 1977, then how would Richard have been alive in 2007? 

5.  Do you think there will be any implications of Miles meeting his Dad?  Or was the implication that he definitely got he and his Mom on the sub?  Speaking of which, how do Sawyer, Kate and Juliet get OFF the sub, but everyone else gets back to the mainland?

6.  Did anyone notice whether the Locke/Alpert "shot in the leg" scene was identical to the original one we saw?

I guess my three-letter instant reaction would be "WTF?"     

[SinkingDeeper]

Has anyone else wondered if this "really" is John Locke?  Just another confused thought.... 

[SinkingDeeper]

http://blog.zap2it.com/frominsidethebox/2009/04/what-did-you-see-during-lost-promos-for-a-new-show-thats-what.html

Further info on the commercial discussed above....

[Keebah]

Also, if they had succeeded in blowing up the H-bomb back in 1977, then how would Richard have been alive in 2007? 

But remember, we don't yet know if they detonated the h-bomb.  All we know is that Richard saw the 1977 survivors die.  He didn't say how they died...

[the Other Brian]

Thanks, er, "Sinking"!

http://blog.zap2it.com/frominsidethebox/2009/04/what-did-you-see-during-lost-promos-for-a-new-show-thats-what.html

Further info on the commercial discussed above....